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Charting the Way Forward
Research-informed strategy and intelligence from across the winning Democratic coalition, with Way to Win cofounders Tory Gavito and Jenifer Fernandez Ancona, and guest appearances from the broader center-left cinematic universe. Hosted by Kerry Eleveld.
Episodes
36 episodes
Bubble Dynamite 🫧🧨 (feat. Joe Sudbay)
Newly dubbed Friend of the Pod -- the DC based feisty activist and State of the States host Joe Sudbay -- joins host Kerry Eleveld and the Way to Win brass (Jenifer Fernandez Ancona and Tory Gavito) for a conversation about how the DC bubble ha...
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Episode 36
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55:52
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Getting it Together (feat. Aaron Parnas)
Maddie Medved hosts for a deep dive with Gen Z's Walter Cronkite (Rolling Stone's analogy, not ours, but it works): journalist, lawyer, master creator, writer of the #1 of news substack on earth, and genuinely nice and down to earth guy Aaron P...
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Season 1
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Episode 35
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31:29
Signs of Cracks (feat. Caitlin Jury)
Rising star ace researcher Caitlin Jury from Equis joins host Kerry Eleveld, President Tory Gavito and head of political Joe Hamill from Way to Win to discuss a fresh hot new Equis poll. Lots of rich data in this episode, including what may be ...
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Episode 34
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51:48
Between Doom and Nirvana (feat. Philip Bump)
Data impresario Philip Bump joins host Kerry Eleveld, chief strategist Jenifer Fernandez Ancona and media strategist Dan Ancona for a discussion that starts with his latest piece, a strong and insightful read on how the dismal state of Democrat...
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Episode 33
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57:18
It's Not Cool!
Texas Republicans are rigging the midterms to escape accountability for the wildly unpopular agenda that Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans are enacting. It’s decidedly ‘not cool,’ as 7th generation Texan and Way to Win President Tory Gavito and...
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Episode 32
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49:22
How Things Fell Apart (feat. Celinda Lake)
NEW POLL: genius pollster Celinda Lake joins host Kerry Eleveld and the Way to Win brass, President Tory Gavito and Chief Strategist Jenifer Fernandez Ancona, to go through the findings from a comprehensively thorough study of the group of vote...
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Episode 31
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48:22
Moving Toward the Sound of the Guns
Host Kerry Eleveld returns for a strategy discussion about the disastrous immigration secret police funding in the Big Ugly MAGA Bill, with Way to Win chief Tory Gavito and media consultant Dan Ancona, who goes Full Kornacki on some of Way's im...
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Episode 30
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1:04:14
Awful, Awful, Awful (Update From the Hill)
As of recording time on Wednesday July 2nd, the fate of the Big Ugly Ass Murder Budget Bill was hanging in the balance. Kristian Ramos and Jenifer Fernandez Ancona join pinch host Dan Ancona to discuss the meaning and ramifications of this comp...
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Season 1
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Episode 29
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30:24
The Pain and the Promise (feat. Terrance Woodbury)
Zohranmania! Join First Official Friend of the Pod Terrance Woodbury for a show we recorded the day of the NYC Mayoral Primary. Terrance is joined by the Way to Win brain trust of host Kerry Eleveld, Jenifer Fernandez Ancona and Tory Gavito, wh...
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Episode 28
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53:30
Urgency and Agency (feat. Glennis Meagher)
Maddie Medved takes the reins while Kerry is out, for a discussion of all things internet with social media guru Glennis Meagher and Way to Win Chief Strategist Jenifer Fernandez Ancona.
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Episode 27
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43:48
Say Nothing and You Confirm Their Version of Events (feat. Molly Murphy)
MAJOR POLL DROP! We worked with Impact Research on a poll that should put a stake through the heart of the conventional wisdom that immigration is a "bad issue for Dems" that they need to avoid "raising the salience of." Impact President Molly ...
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Episode 26
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34:07
Vikings, Tequila Shots and the DNC (feat. Chuck Rocha)
Democratic überconsultant Chuck Rocha has won a ton of elections and he has ANSWERS. He joins the all-star roundtable of host Kerry Eleveld, strategist Kristian Ramos and Way to Win head Tory Gavito for a discussion of how Dems can reach not ju...
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Episode 25
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56:47
Maybe We're Not Cooked?! (feat. Michael Frias)
Fresh off the release of the kaleidoscopic and deep Catalist voter-file based analysis of the 2024, Catalist chief Michael Frias joins host Kerry Eleveld and strategists Joe Hamill and Kristian Ramos for a discussion that goes far beyond just t...
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Episode 24
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47:53
Checks and Imbalances (feat. Brian Derrick)
Think your $25 donation doesn’t move the needle? Think again. In this episode, host Kerry Eleveld and the big strategy panel of Tory Gavito, Jenifer Ancona and Maddie Medved sit down with Brian Derrick, founder of Oath, to unpack how small-doll...
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Episode 23
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57:47
Charting a New Way Forward. No, really. (feat. Kyle Tharp)
Host Kerry Eleveld and media analyst and strategist Dan Ancona talk to Kyle "Chaotic Era" Tharp about the release of TV Congress 2024, Way to Win's interactive tracking database of political TV ads.
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Season 1
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Episode 22
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58:06
We're a Bigger Tent (feat. Cornell Belcher)
Veteran Democratic pollster Cornell Belcher joins us for a riveting discussion of how to reconstitute a winning Democratic coalition from the ground up, starting with men of color who voted for Biden in 2020 but then skipped 2024. It's a must l...
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Season 1
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Episode 21
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57:07
Behold, The Mother of All Persuasion Windows Openeth
Join Kerry and Tory, Maddie and Dan from the Way to Win team for a roundtable discussion on this remarkable moment in history, the opportunity it presents, and what some of the barriers in the thinking of the DC establishment are to seizing it....
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Season 1
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Episode 20
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45:50
All Trees, No Forest (feat. Dan Pfeiffer)
Dan "The Message Box" Pfeiffer joins Kerry and Jenifer for Part 2 of our Understanding the Missing Biden Voters series, including sound from our focus groups, their thoughts on the Harris and Trump campaigns, and the prospects for 2026 and beyo...
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Season 1
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Episode 19
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57:01
Understanding the Missing Biden Voters
We have focus group sound! We worked with Lake Research to talk to four groups of battleground voters that voted for Biden in 2020 and then didn't vote in 2024. Join Kerry and Jenifer as they walk through our conversations with these voters, th...
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Episode 18
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45:26
The Four Fs: Fight, Fascism, Freedom and F*ck
Another episode, another genius: this week we have on long time DC operative Joe Sudbay with insights from both DC and the incredible, accelerating momentum happening in the states. Host Kerry Eleveld, and Tory Gavito and Kristian Ramos round o...
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Episode 17
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1:06:33
The Hunger for Strong and Meaningful Opposition (feat. Rep Greg Casar)
Something, finally, seems to be shifting. Join the Charting gang - Kerry, Kristian, and Maddie - as they catch up with Rep Greg Casar of Texas to talk about his experience at the Bernie and AOC Fight Oligarchy Tour, and the recent raft of vastl...
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Episode 16
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53:12
Zero Sum Politics ⚠️ And the Future Of The Dem Coalition (featuring Terrance Woodbury from HIT Strategies)
Continuing our series of having incredibly smart people on the show, join host Kerry Eleveld with a panel discussion featuring Terrance Woodbury of HIT Strategies, Tory Gavito, and Kristian Ramos for a deep discussion of Black voters and broade...
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Season 1
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Episode 15
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46:30
Absurd! Not True! Feat. Anat Shenker-Osorio
Join host Kerry Eleveld and messaging and strategy guru Anat Shenker-Osorio for a rich and not very doomy conversation on the strategically critical and awesomely fun direct action scene, some hot sizzling fresh focus group results, and how the...
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Episode 14
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1:10:04
To Moderate Or Not To Moderate, That Is The Question
With Democratic enterprises of great pith and moment currents beginning to turn awry and lose the name of action, Kerry hosts, as Dan and Jenifer join for a reunion tour of their brief foray into streaming, The What's Possible Show. Conscience ...
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Episode 13
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51:21
Making it Stick, feat. Creator/Strategist Annie Wu Henry
We gave Kristian and Kerry the unenviable task of trying make some kind of sense out of Trump's weird, awful joint address. After they pilot the ship relatively painlessly through those waves and reefs, Kerry interviews Annie with a hopeful and...
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Episode 12
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40:48