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Charting the Way Forward
Research-informed strategy and intelligence from across the winning Democratic coalition, with Way to Win cofounders Tory Gavito and Jenifer Fernandez Ancona, and guest appearances from the broader center-left cinematic universe. Hosted by Kerry Eleveld.
Episodes
29 episodes
Awful, Awful, Awful (Update From the Hill)
As of recording time on Wednesday July 2nd, the fate of the Big Ugly Ass Murder Budget Bill was hanging in the balance. Kristian Ramos and Jenifer Fernandez Ancona join pinch host Dan Ancona to discuss the meaning and ramifications of this comp...
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Episode 29
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The Pain and the Promise (feat. Terrance Woodbury)
Zohranmania! Join First Official Friend of the Pod Terrance Woodbury for a show we recorded the day of the NYC Mayoral Primary. Terrance is joined by the Way to Win brain trust of host Kerry Eleveld, Jenifer Fernandez Ancona and Tory Gavito, wh...
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Episode 28
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53:30
Urgency and Agency (feat. Glennis Meagher)
Maddie Medved takes the reins while Kerry is out, for a discussion of all things internet with social media guru Glennis Meagher and Way to Win Chief Strategist Jenifer Fernandez Ancona.
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Episode 27
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43:48
Say Nothing and You Confirm Their Version of Events (feat. Molly Murphy)
MAJOR POLL DROP! We worked with Impact Research on a poll that should put a stake through the heart of the conventional wisdom that immigration is a "bad issue for Dems" that they need to avoid "raising the salience of." Impact President Molly ...
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Episode 26
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34:07
Vikings, Tequila Shots and the DNC (feat. Chuck Rocha)
Democratic überconsultant Chuck Rocha has won a ton of elections and he has ANSWERS. He joins the all-star roundtable of host Kerry Eleveld, strategist Kristian Ramos and Way to Win head Tory Gavito for a discussion of how Dems can reach not ju...
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Episode 25
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56:47
Maybe We're Not Cooked?! (feat. Michael Frias)
Fresh off the release of the kaleidoscopic and deep Catalist voter-file based analysis of the 2024, Catalist chief Michael Frias joins host Kerry Eleveld and strategists Joe Hamill and Kristian Ramos for a discussion that goes far beyond just t...
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Episode 24
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47:53
Checks and Imbalances (feat. Brian Derrick)
Think your $25 donation doesn’t move the needle? Think again. In this episode, host Kerry Eleveld and the big strategy panel of Tory Gavito, Jenifer Ancona and Maddie Medved sit down with Brian Derrick, founder of Oath, to unpack how small-doll...
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Episode 23
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57:47
Charting a New Way Forward. No, really. (feat. Kyle Tharp)
Host Kerry Eleveld and media analyst and strategist Dan Ancona talk to Kyle "Chaotic Era" Tharp about the release of TV Congress 2024, Way to Win's interactive tracking database of political TV ads.
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Episode 22
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58:06
We're a Bigger Tent (feat. Cornell Belcher)
Veteran Democratic pollster Cornell Belcher joins us for a riveting discussion of how to reconstitute a winning Democratic coalition from the ground up, starting with men of color who voted for Biden in 2020 but then skipped 2024. It's a must l...
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Episode 21
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57:07
Behold, The Mother of All Persuasion Windows Openeth
Join Kerry and Tory, Maddie and Dan from the Way to Win team for a roundtable discussion on this remarkable moment in history, the opportunity it presents, and what some of the barriers in the thinking of the DC establishment are to seizing it....
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Episode 20
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45:50
All Trees, No Forest (feat. Dan Pfeiffer)
Dan "The Message Box" Pfeiffer joins Kerry and Jenifer for Part 2 of our Understanding the Missing Biden Voters series, including sound from our focus groups, their thoughts on the Harris and Trump campaigns, and the prospects for 2026 and beyo...
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Episode 19
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57:01
Understanding the Missing Biden Voters
We have focus group sound! We worked with Lake Research to talk to four groups of battleground voters that voted for Biden in 2020 and then didn't vote in 2024. Join Kerry and Jenifer as they walk through our conversations with these voters, th...
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Episode 18
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45:26
The Four Fs: Fight, Fascism, Freedom and F*ck
Another episode, another genius: this week we have on long time DC operative Joe Sudbay with insights from both DC and the incredible, accelerating momentum happening in the states. Host Kerry Eleveld, and Tory Gavito and Kristian Ramos round o...
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Episode 17
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1:06:33
The Hunger for Strong and Meaningful Opposition (feat. Rep Greg Casar)
Something, finally, seems to be shifting. Join the Charting gang - Kerry, Kristian, and Maddie - as they catch up with Rep Greg Casar of Texas to talk about his experience at the Bernie and AOC Fight Oligarchy Tour, and the recent raft of vastl...
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Episode 16
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53:12
Zero Sum Politics ⚠️ And the Future Of The Dem Coalition (featuring Terrance Woodbury from HIT Strategies)
Continuing our series of having incredibly smart people on the show, join host Kerry Eleveld with a panel discussion featuring Terrance Woodbury of HIT Strategies, Tory Gavito, and Kristian Ramos for a deep discussion of Black voters and broade...
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Episode 15
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46:30
Absurd! Not True! Feat. Anat Shenker-Osorio
Join host Kerry Eleveld and messaging and strategy guru Anat Shenker-Osorio for a rich and not very doomy conversation on the strategically critical and awesomely fun direct action scene, some hot sizzling fresh focus group results, and how the...
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Episode 14
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1:10:04
To Moderate Or Not To Moderate, That Is The Question
With Democratic enterprises of great pith and moment currents beginning to turn awry and lose the name of action, Kerry hosts, as Dan and Jenifer join for a reunion tour of their brief foray into streaming, The What's Possible Show. Conscience ...
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Episode 13
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51:21
Making it Stick, feat. Creator/Strategist Annie Wu Henry
We gave Kristian and Kerry the unenviable task of trying make some kind of sense out of Trump's weird, awful joint address. After they pilot the ship relatively painlessly through those waves and reefs, Kerry interviews Annie with a hopeful and...
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Episode 12
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40:48
Republicans Take The First Bite of a Toxic 💩 Sandwich
Join host Kerry Eleveld with updates on polling, Maddie Medved with reports from the social wildlands, Jenifer Fernandez Ancona's thoughts on media and strategy, and Kristian Ramos with reports from the Hill as Republicans prepare to pass a bud...
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Episode 11
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49:33
The Media Gap and the Mechanics of Vibes (feat. Will Stancil)
This episode features something daring, groundbreaking and unheard of in American political podcasting: a discussion between two white guys. While the usual team is out on a strategy retreat, Dan Ancona pinch-hosts for Kerry in a discussion abo...
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Episode 10
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53:45
Evolving A Stronger Resistance in 2025 (feat. Leah Greenberg of Indivisible)
If you have a sense whatever the resistance did during Trump's first term didn't quite work out, you're not alone. Big changes and wild growth are happening already in this new reality, and Leah Greenberg from Indivisible is at the center of on...
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Episode 9
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47:21
Will Caving to Trump Fix Democrats Massive Trust Issues?
Join host Kerry Eleveld, Way to Win ED Tory Gavito, Latino Guru Kristian Ramos, and Research/Media/Strategy Dude Dan Ancona for a roundtable discussion on pathways out of the Democratic Party's massive trust deficit and catastrophically high un...
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Episode 8
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52:22
The New Generational Fight Against Oligarchy
Join Kristian Ramos, Tory Gavito and Jenifer Fernandez Ancona for a discussion tying this week's news to big picture trends and context. Don't miss moments include Kristian's updates from his conversations on Capitol Hill, Jenifer's concise exp...
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Episode 7
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49:51
The Missing 19 Million Biden Voters and The Pilgrimage Out of Flatland (feat. Mike Podhorzer)
Kerry and Jenifer join a special guest, renowned Democratic strategist Mike Podhorzer, to discuss the controversy over his take on the 2024 election outcome.
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Episode 6
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41:03
We Love the Smell of Fresh Polling Data Early in the Morning
Journey further into the heart of 2024 election darkness, and the longer term and economic roots of the challenges that Democrats need to either face or continue being dragged down by. A discussion of Way to Win's recent round of polling Presid...
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Episode 5
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42:31